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Gear: The ALLE Pack

If you’ve hiked or marched with an ALICE pack before, you know just how thin the regulation shoulder straps are, and how sharply they bite the shoulders. The hip belt isn’t much better.

If you read AR15.com you might recognize the ALLE Pack or “Hellcat”, but those who haven’t seen it before may benefit from the experience of another. Basically, it combines an ALICE pack and frame with a MOLLE sleep system carrier, belt, and shoulder strap set.

I’ve assembled one of these, and added a few pouches. So far, it has held up, but I have yet to take it out on a full field exercise. I like that it has some of the modularity of the MOLLE system, but retains the low price of ALICE components – sure beats the $370 you’ll pay for a MALICE 3 pack from Tactical Tailor, and for about the same cargo space.

Thoughts?

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  1. 16 January 2011 at 15:49

    That’s a good idea. I probably have over a thousand miles under an ALICE pack. I’ve done a lot of things to try to help make ALICE more bearable, and this looks like a good fix.

    It’s worth looking into and trying, for sure!

    Thanks!

    AP

  2. Prairie Fire
    16 January 2011 at 22:07

    That linked thread about combining Alice and Molle II, was interesting. But I was wondering, since complete, assembled, almost brand new Molle II packs are going for $50, where is the advantage with staying with the Alice ruck and Alice frame?

    If that described system was better going over Alice web/suspender gear, then that would be something to shout about. Molle II over Alice web gear, does not work for me.

  3. Prairie Fire
    17 January 2011 at 11:08

    To try and clarify my original question as to Why: What is the comparative advantage of this mod, over the Molle II system? What this modification does, is take quite a bit from the Molle II, leaving out what may be the bad features of Molle II. Subtraction of the various parts, leaves the Molle II ruck bag, and its frame, as being the bad things. Why so wrong? I am interested, not criticizing. I own both. Large Alice and frame, is out of the equation, right?

    If the old frame, medium Alice, modded with the Molle II shoulder harness and belt will allow use of the old web gear beneath the pack, web gear hung low, then I’m all ears. Old buttpack useable, or not.

  4. 17 January 2011 at 22:12

    Personally, I like it because of the shoulder straps, but as you point out, why not just get a MOLLE II bag? I tried it out because I had an ALICE rig lying around with the horrible straps. Lots of others have that same bag, but may not have the money to plunk down for a whole new bag and frame.

    I did try it with a set of ALICE web gear, as you describe. It works to a point. If you’re not very tall, you may find that the buttpack is literally a butt-level pack; it will take a lot of initial adjustment to sit correctly on the march.

    The only truly universal rule of equipment is to find what works best for you and try it out repeatedly so as to find the weaknesses and eliminate them. Don’t assume that just because it works for someone else that it will fit your situation. I share because I like the free exchange of ideas, which your comments help drive.

  5. 21 January 2011 at 17:16

    Tactical Tailor is a great company and has gotten plenty of my money over the years. However if you just want good serviceable gear (vs great well thought out gear) get onto ebay and you can find gently used MOLLE stuff for the price of dinner for 2 or 3 at a casual dining restaurant.

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